Well, first I would need to see some form of logical evidence or reasoning that would indicate that Jesus Christ is still alive today. Then we could focus on the ironic worshiping of a person by using the device which killed him to symbolize devotion. References :
I am not sure where you got that from, but the purpose of seeing the cross now is to remember what Jesus did for us on the day He died for our sins. References : The Bible – The only good book!
Proverbs 2:3-6 (New International Version)
If you call out for insight and cry aloud for understanding, and if you look for it as for silver and search for it as for hidden treasure, then you will understand the fear of the LORD and find the knowledge of God. For the LORD gives wisdom, and from his mouth come knowledge and understanding.
Here’s a simple prayer you can say:
(If you say this and mean it in your heart you will be saved and understand why we believe what we do.)
“Dear God, I know I am a sinner, I know I am not where I want to be, and I want your forgiveness! I believe that Jesus died on the cross to pay the price for my sins.
Please wash me clean from all sin, shame, and guilt, and come into my life to be my Lord and Savior. I ask this in your name Jesus.
The empty cross started to be seen only in the last 500 years ever since the Protestant reform… Otherwise it was always a crucifix. a cross with a dead body hanging from it…
You probably heard the name of "SLAUGHTER HOUSE RELIGION" given to Christianity. ALL Christians need to snack God the Son Jesus Christ in some way as part of the “salvation” package.
It is a scientifically proven fact that RELIGION is a mental disorder characterized by abnormalities in the perception and/or expression of reality. Distortions in perception may affect all five senses. It is a serious social disorder. In most severe cases, those affected are willing to kill and die, or SUPPORT THOSE WHO DO. They can’t help to behave very silly in public on behalf of their religion. Among religious people of like faith and practice, they are the champions in their own delusion!
John 6:53 (KJV) Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you (DUCK! Hey, If he is God and not a Bull Crapper why does he have to keep reminding everybody that he is telling the truth? WE ALL KNOW that obsessive Bull Sh*tters do that all the time!), Except ye eat the FLESH of the Son of man, and drink his BLOOD, ye have no life in you* (*addressing a very gullible vampire(?) population… spiritually speaking, of course!)
The “Holy Communion” has to be served just right, or Christians can get real sick and die! Protestants have relaxed this warning, but Catholics still believe that the Host* (*wafer) and Wine is magically transformed into the ACTUAL spit flavored Meat and sweaty Blood of Jesus Christ shed at Gethsemane, or was it at Calvary? It couldn’t be at Calvary because Jesus was comfortably talking to everybody around his Cross, not painfully bleeding to death! When a person is hanged they lose control of the bladder and they let go all the piss out! Jesus did that too only when the Roman soldier pierced his bladder. I question the value of water* (*piss?) mixed with blood for the “cleansing of sins,” but what the heck! In some parishes extraordinary measures are taken after Mass to monitor that no trace of the body of Jesus Christ is found in any spent chewing gum stuck under the Church pews, or anywhere else! They are collected and given a decent burial!
1 Corinthians 1:29-30 (KJV) For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh DAMNATION to himself, not discerning THE LORD’S BODY. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many SLEEP* (*”have died.” Holy Mafia talk! Low IQ Christians who are sick are screwing up the Holy Communion, or how else can they get real sick and die?).
The Christian writers of the NT went berserk proving that in fulfillment of Bible prophecies Jesus Christ’s flesh was skillfully beaten to a pulp and heavily marinated in Roman soldiers’ spit, as the “spotless Lamb of God taking away the sins of the world” while hanging nailed totally naked to a Holy Cross. It is scientifically proven that no cross can possible hold any human body hanging comfortably in there from a nail in each hand for any length of time! BTW, in the OT God demands that all the lambs for the sacrifice be thoroughly inspected by the Priest to make sure they are CLEAN AND SPOTLESS! In the case of Jesus the Priests rejected him outright! The inspection of the Lamb of God NEVER took place!
Job 17:6 (NIV) God has made me* (*Jesus) a byword to everyone* (*that is when “God the Father laid on HIM the iniquity of us all” Isa 53:6), A MAN IN WHOSE FACE PEOPLE SPIT* (*this is about the most striking prophecy about Jesus Christ that Preachers play cool for obvious reasons!). It is kinda poopy, but there is hardly any other “prophecy” in the Bible that the NT writers fit more precisely to their “crucifixion” story than this one, from the Book of Job!
Matthew 26:67 (NIV) Then they SPIT IN HIS FACE and struck him with their fists. Others slapped him.
Matthew 27:30 (NIV) They SPIT ON HIM, and took the staff* (*that a 33 year old Jesus was limping along as a “Good Shepherd!”) and struck him on the head again and again.
Mark 14:65 (NIV) Then some began to SPIT AT HIM; they blindfolded him, struck him with their fists, and said, "Prophesy!" And the guards took him and beat him* (*the Bible writers dreamed up some BDSM games for the occasion).
Mark 15:19a (NIV) Again and again, they struck him on the head with a staff and SPIT ON HIM.
That’s almost a gallon of not Jewish, but ROMAN spit!!! Christians go wild preaching that the Jews rejected Jesus Christ, but the most humiliating spitting rejection ever put together by the Bible writers comes from the Romans, not from the Jews! Apparently there was something very repulsive about Jesus’ image that invited a lot of Roman spit, or maybe it had to do with the blood that he was sweating all over his face in prayer to God before his capture! He never took a shower after that!
No Holy Roman authority EVER apologized to the Jews on behalf of the Roman soldiers who are on Bible record spitting on Jesus’ face, or for having nailed him on a Holy ROMAN Cross. Jesus was not just any Jew! JESUS WAS MEANT TO BE THE KING OF THE JEWS! The Roman Christians were ruling Europe for many centuries, and they still rule the “souls” of millions of proud Roman Catholics throughout the world. Catholics and Protestants THEY ALL BLAME THE JEWS FOR KILLING JESUS! The religious Jews are so traumatized about this whole issue that they don’t want to touch Jesus, or the whole Christian religion not even with a 10 foot pole, except for those who are “converted” and are making a good living on it!
There is no historical record that the Roman soldiers ever let their victims take a shower after a heavy dose of spitting. In reality, the Roman soldiers were not known to chew tobacco, or to spit at anybody! The Bible writers had to show that this “prophecy” of Job about “spitting on his face” was actually fulfilled. They made that point several times in the Bible! There is no record in the Bible or anywhere else that the Roman soldiers dressed any of their victim’s genital area in a white diaper before nailing them to any cross no matter how Holy! The Romans were much better known to IMPALE their victims driving a thick pole into the victim’s rectum and forcing them TO STAND ON IT WITHOUT ANY FOOT REST until the pole would eventually pierce the heart or lung killing them by their own body weight! The thicker the pole, the longer it took for the victim to die! The Roman soldiers had plenty of fun that way! Jesus hardly suffered a sissy man’s death hanging his full body weight so gently from a nail in each hand. THE 2 NAILS CAN’T POSSIBLY HOLD ANYBODY HANGING IN THERE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME. That is why the Church Fathers invented the foot rest at the right height and size so Jesus could feel cozy hanging in there. Christians deep throat the crucifixion story like a charm (John 20:25-27). Some Christians look forward to see Jesus HOLEY Body! They are preached to believe that the crucifixion is the most tormenting death ever invented! Not so! Impalement would have been a real pain in Jesus’ anal cavity and still fulfill Bible prophecy about “hanging on a tree,” but the Bible writers were wise enough to come up with a more credible fantasy of a crucifixion story. If Jesus were to have a pole jammed up into his Holy Anus his eyes would be popping out of orbit! He would be screaming profanities like mad at his Holy Father in Heaven!
According to the Gospel writers, Jesus Christ was able to conduct a long heated conversation with his peers nailed to the other crosses, with some of the guests at the crucifixion site, and with the Roman soldiers that crucified him, and also with his Daddy God up in the Sky. The conscripted Roman soldiers spoke only Latin (Luke 23:38)!
Well informed, non-religious people know that the whole “crucifixion” story is a hoax of historical proportions promoted by Saint Paul and later on picked up by the rest of the Bible writers (Acts 25:19). Moreover, the faithful* (*gullible) Christians expect to reign along with this same Roman spit covered JESUS CHRIST KING OF THE JEWS in Jerusalem for 1,000 years at his 2nd coming. If he really reconsider being a King of the Jews… because he already recanted! (John 18:36)!
The Bible writers were very much in the spitting fetish… They have Jesus restoring the eye sight of a blind man with his Holy spit, too! (John 9:6)
Revelation 3:16 (NIV) (Jesus is saying) So, because you* (*good Christians, but in the wrong Church!) are lukewarm neither hot nor cold I am about to SPIT YOU OUT of my mouth* (*like any tobacco chewing “good shepherd” giving his life for a stupid sheep would do! Mat 18:13 -NO RANTING, but Christianity is full of Heathen mythology!
About 500 years ago, the Protestants wised up and removed the hanging corpse of Jesus Christ from the Holy Cross. Now, only Catholics still display a dead body nailed to a cross and as you look at it, just THINK if those 2 nails can possibly hold a human body so nicely! In most movies they are honest to show that the arms of the crucified victim are tied up to the cross so the body won’t fall out of it!
The Jews restrict Judaism to their own people, but Christians want to impose Christianity on the whole world, and now the Muslims are catching up like bloody murder! I am fully aware that my answers upset a lot of professional preachers and most members of the Clergy, but they all know that religious gullibility* (*faith) is not going to collapse overnight… so relax all ye Christian people… References :
JESUS SAYS TAKE UP THE CROSS , NOT WEAR IT – IT MEANS, U WILL GO THREW SOME CRUCIFICATION ARE AFFLICATION (REJECTION), BECAUSE JESUS SPOKE TRUTH TO THE PEOPLE, FOR FREEDOM, JUSTICE, EQUALITY, TO RESURRECT THE PEOPLE MENTALLT AND SPIRITUALLY
After that His diciples were CALL CHRISTIAN, thats a beautiful Name " THE WORD CHRIST IS A TITLE" meaning anoited bring true peace and bringingin Gods Kingdom
Christian and Muslim is one in the same base on true meaning, not just Titles, because God is Universal . In Holy quran Jesus was resurrected, with Allah(God) or farther and says God raise prophet in every nations, look up the word every ! References :
christ is not on any cross and jesus on one and lord jesus christ on another appears as one body to us because they are same body at both ends as two we see as one with empty as two where law allows one to be saved makes no sense as half is three instead where theif made to assure they go is empty cross jesus becomes next as faith since lord love at other end he cannot be next they said and he knows then they decieved References :
January 29th, 2010 at 9:30 am
That sounds suspiciously like you just answered your own question.
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January 29th, 2010 at 10:09 am
The cross is simply a reminder…………
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January 29th, 2010 at 10:34 am
You need to give a reference. I dont have a clue of what you are talking about….>
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January 29th, 2010 at 11:23 am
It is to remind you of your fate if you ever question the teachings of the Church.
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January 29th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Well, first I would need to see some form of logical evidence or reasoning that would indicate that Jesus Christ is still alive today. Then we could focus on the ironic worshiping of a person by using the device which killed him to symbolize devotion.
References :
January 29th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
I am not sure where you got that from, but the purpose of seeing the cross now is to remember what Jesus did for us on the day He died for our sins.
References :
The Bible – The only good book!
Proverbs 2:3-6 (New International Version)
If you call out for insight and cry aloud for understanding, and if you look for it as for silver and search for it as for hidden treasure, then you will understand the fear of the LORD and find the knowledge of God. For the LORD gives wisdom, and from his mouth come knowledge and understanding.
Here’s a simple prayer you can say:
(If you say this and mean it in your heart you will be saved and understand why we believe what we do.)
“Dear God, I know I am a sinner, I know I am not where I want to be, and I want your forgiveness! I believe that Jesus died on the cross to pay the price for my sins.
Please wash me clean from all sin, shame, and guilt, and come into my life to be my Lord and Savior. I ask this in your name Jesus.
Amen!”
January 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
The empty cross started to be seen only in the last 500 years ever since the Protestant reform… Otherwise it was always a crucifix. a cross with a dead body hanging from it…
You probably heard the name of "SLAUGHTER HOUSE RELIGION" given to Christianity. ALL Christians need to snack God the Son Jesus Christ in some way as part of the “salvation” package.
It is a scientifically proven fact that RELIGION is a mental disorder characterized by abnormalities in the perception and/or expression of reality. Distortions in perception may affect all five senses. It is a serious social disorder. In most severe cases, those affected are willing to kill and die, or SUPPORT THOSE WHO DO. They can’t help to behave very silly in public on behalf of their religion. Among religious people of like faith and practice, they are the champions in their own delusion!
John 6:53 (KJV) Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you (DUCK! Hey, If he is God and not a Bull Crapper why does he have to keep reminding everybody that he is telling the truth? WE ALL KNOW that obsessive Bull Sh*tters do that all the time!), Except ye eat the FLESH of the Son of man, and drink his BLOOD, ye have no life in you* (*addressing a very gullible vampire(?) population… spiritually speaking, of course!)
The “Holy Communion” has to be served just right, or Christians can get real sick and die! Protestants have relaxed this warning, but Catholics still believe that the Host* (*wafer) and Wine is magically transformed into the ACTUAL spit flavored Meat and sweaty Blood of Jesus Christ shed at Gethsemane, or was it at Calvary? It couldn’t be at Calvary because Jesus was comfortably talking to everybody around his Cross, not painfully bleeding to death! When a person is hanged they lose control of the bladder and they let go all the piss out! Jesus did that too only when the Roman soldier pierced his bladder. I question the value of water* (*piss?) mixed with blood for the “cleansing of sins,” but what the heck! In some parishes extraordinary measures are taken after Mass to monitor that no trace of the body of Jesus Christ is found in any spent chewing gum stuck under the Church pews, or anywhere else! They are collected and given a decent burial!
1 Corinthians 1:29-30 (KJV) For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh DAMNATION to himself, not discerning THE LORD’S BODY. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many SLEEP* (*”have died.” Holy Mafia talk! Low IQ Christians who are sick are screwing up the Holy Communion, or how else can they get real sick and die?).
The Christian writers of the NT went berserk proving that in fulfillment of Bible prophecies Jesus Christ’s flesh was skillfully beaten to a pulp and heavily marinated in Roman soldiers’ spit, as the “spotless Lamb of God taking away the sins of the world” while hanging nailed totally naked to a Holy Cross. It is scientifically proven that no cross can possible hold any human body hanging comfortably in there from a nail in each hand for any length of time! BTW, in the OT God demands that all the lambs for the sacrifice be thoroughly inspected by the Priest to make sure they are CLEAN AND SPOTLESS! In the case of Jesus the Priests rejected him outright! The inspection of the Lamb of God NEVER took place!
Job 17:6 (NIV) God has made me* (*Jesus) a byword to everyone* (*that is when “God the Father laid on HIM the iniquity of us all” Isa 53:6), A MAN IN WHOSE FACE PEOPLE SPIT* (*this is about the most striking prophecy about Jesus Christ that Preachers play cool for obvious reasons!). It is kinda poopy, but there is hardly any other “prophecy” in the Bible that the NT writers fit more precisely to their “crucifixion” story than this one, from the Book of Job!
Matthew 26:67 (NIV) Then they SPIT IN HIS FACE and struck him with their fists. Others slapped him.
Matthew 27:30 (NIV) They SPIT ON HIM, and took the staff* (*that a 33 year old Jesus was limping along as a “Good Shepherd!”) and struck him on the head again and again.
Mark 14:65 (NIV) Then some began to SPIT AT HIM; they blindfolded him, struck him with their fists, and said, "Prophesy!" And the guards took him and beat him* (*the Bible writers dreamed up some BDSM games for the occasion).
Mark 15:19a (NIV) Again and again, they struck him on the head with a staff and SPIT ON HIM.
That’s almost a gallon of not Jewish, but ROMAN spit!!! Christians go wild preaching that the Jews rejected Jesus Christ, but the most humiliating spitting rejection ever put together by the Bible writers comes from the Romans, not from the Jews! Apparently there was something very repulsive about Jesus’ image that invited a lot of Roman spit, or maybe it had to do with the blood that he was sweating all over his face in prayer to God before his capture! He never took a shower after that!
No Holy Roman authority EVER apologized to the Jews on behalf of the Roman soldiers who are on Bible record spitting on Jesus’ face, or for having nailed him on a Holy ROMAN Cross. Jesus was not just any Jew! JESUS WAS MEANT TO BE THE KING OF THE JEWS! The Roman Christians were ruling Europe for many centuries, and they still rule the “souls” of millions of proud Roman Catholics throughout the world. Catholics and Protestants THEY ALL BLAME THE JEWS FOR KILLING JESUS! The religious Jews are so traumatized about this whole issue that they don’t want to touch Jesus, or the whole Christian religion not even with a 10 foot pole, except for those who are “converted” and are making a good living on it!
There is no historical record that the Roman soldiers ever let their victims take a shower after a heavy dose of spitting. In reality, the Roman soldiers were not known to chew tobacco, or to spit at anybody! The Bible writers had to show that this “prophecy” of Job about “spitting on his face” was actually fulfilled. They made that point several times in the Bible! There is no record in the Bible or anywhere else that the Roman soldiers dressed any of their victim’s genital area in a white diaper before nailing them to any cross no matter how Holy! The Romans were much better known to IMPALE their victims driving a thick pole into the victim’s rectum and forcing them TO STAND ON IT WITHOUT ANY FOOT REST until the pole would eventually pierce the heart or lung killing them by their own body weight! The thicker the pole, the longer it took for the victim to die! The Roman soldiers had plenty of fun that way! Jesus hardly suffered a sissy man’s death hanging his full body weight so gently from a nail in each hand. THE 2 NAILS CAN’T POSSIBLY HOLD ANYBODY HANGING IN THERE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME. That is why the Church Fathers invented the foot rest at the right height and size so Jesus could feel cozy hanging in there. Christians deep throat the crucifixion story like a charm (John 20:25-27). Some Christians look forward to see Jesus HOLEY Body! They are preached to believe that the crucifixion is the most tormenting death ever invented! Not so! Impalement would have been a real pain in Jesus’ anal cavity and still fulfill Bible prophecy about “hanging on a tree,” but the Bible writers were wise enough to come up with a more credible fantasy of a crucifixion story. If Jesus were to have a pole jammed up into his Holy Anus his eyes would be popping out of orbit! He would be screaming profanities like mad at his Holy Father in Heaven!
According to the Gospel writers, Jesus Christ was able to conduct a long heated conversation with his peers nailed to the other crosses, with some of the guests at the crucifixion site, and with the Roman soldiers that crucified him, and also with his Daddy God up in the Sky. The conscripted Roman soldiers spoke only Latin (Luke 23:38)!
Well informed, non-religious people know that the whole “crucifixion” story is a hoax of historical proportions promoted by Saint Paul and later on picked up by the rest of the Bible writers (Acts 25:19). Moreover, the faithful* (*gullible) Christians expect to reign along with this same Roman spit covered JESUS CHRIST KING OF THE JEWS in Jerusalem for 1,000 years at his 2nd coming. If he really reconsider being a King of the Jews… because he already recanted! (John 18:36)!
The Bible writers were very much in the spitting fetish… They have Jesus restoring the eye sight of a blind man with his Holy spit, too! (John 9:6)
Revelation 3:16 (NIV) (Jesus is saying) So, because you* (*good Christians, but in the wrong Church!) are lukewarm neither hot nor cold I am about to SPIT YOU OUT of my mouth* (*like any tobacco chewing “good shepherd” giving his life for a stupid sheep would do! Mat 18:13 -NO RANTING, but Christianity is full of Heathen mythology!
About 500 years ago, the Protestants wised up and removed the hanging corpse of Jesus Christ from the Holy Cross. Now, only Catholics still display a dead body nailed to a cross and as you look at it, just THINK if those 2 nails can possibly hold a human body so nicely! In most movies they are honest to show that the arms of the crucified victim are tied up to the cross so the body won’t fall out of it!
The Jews restrict Judaism to their own people, but Christians want to impose Christianity on the whole world, and now the Muslims are catching up like bloody murder! I am fully aware that my answers upset a lot of professional preachers and most members of the Clergy, but they all know that religious gullibility* (*faith) is not going to collapse overnight… so relax all ye Christian people…
References :
January 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
THEY WERE PEOPLE ON CROSS BEFORE JESUS
JESUS SAYS TAKE UP THE CROSS , NOT WEAR IT – IT MEANS, U WILL GO THREW SOME CRUCIFICATION ARE AFFLICATION (REJECTION), BECAUSE JESUS SPOKE TRUTH TO THE PEOPLE, FOR FREEDOM, JUSTICE, EQUALITY, TO RESURRECT THE PEOPLE MENTALLT AND SPIRITUALLY
After that His diciples were CALL CHRISTIAN, thats a beautiful Name " THE WORD CHRIST IS A TITLE" meaning anoited bring true peace and bringingin Gods Kingdom
Christian and Muslim is one in the same base on true meaning, not just Titles, because God is Universal . In Holy quran Jesus was resurrected, with Allah(God) or farther and says God raise prophet in every nations, look up the word every !
References :
January 29th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
christ is not on any cross and jesus on one and lord jesus christ on another appears as one body to us because they are same body at both ends as two we see as one with empty as two where law allows one to be saved makes no sense as half is three instead where theif made to assure they go is empty cross jesus becomes next as faith since lord love at other end he cannot be next they said and he knows then they decieved
References :